By bobby

August 12, 2010 4:41 PM | Link to this

Touche, Ellen.

By davidss2

August 12, 2010 4:41 PM | Link to this

“Belcher also stated, “When that system went live, calls weren’t getting through for hours.” In fact, 2,228 calls were received at our regional dispatch center on this date. Only five calls went unanswered due to AT&T’s error. During my interview with Belcher, I stated that I would allow a consultant of my choosing to conduct an analysis of my policing contracts. This was omitted completely from her commentary.”———————-Imagine Ellen and Marty omitting facts to make their stories seem more credible to their minions? Imagine that Ellen had to go actually do policing work and rub elbows with those that they like to champion in their ultraliberal editorials.

By null

August 12, 2010 5:47 PM | Link to this

No wonder newspapers are in the tank and cox news is a prime ecample. Heavily edited stories to give the “reporter’s” slant and avoiding the truth. Bird cage and litter box liners.

By Tony

August 12, 2010 5:52 PM | Link to this

Ms. Belcher has always been an idiot with a heavy-handed bias. That’s why I don’t read anything with her name on it. Her credibility has been zilch for years.

By jimmie

August 12, 2010 7:39 PM | Link to this

Obviously, Belcher is STILL an idiot.

By Gary

August 12, 2010 8:14 PM | Link to this

Obviously the first 5 posts were part of the Plummer rebutal squad. This article was most likely written by one of Plummer’s political hacks, he doesn’t have the syntax and grammer skills to put this piece together. I find it ironic Plummer’s blog squad blasts Belcher but how do we know the statements made by Plummer are true? Were they verified by an unbiased financial expert? I doubt it, the financial stats he puts forth were most likely compiled by the fiscal officer in his department. Sheriff plummers states he will allow a consutant, “of his choosing” evaluate his operation. What kind of stupid statement is that? Phil, you are desperately trying to regain some level of credibility in the community, the “ethical” and “intelligent” statement you should have made would have been, ‘I will use a financial consultant independently chosen by the financial review panel who recently reviewed Montgomery County finances’. Stating you will choose your own smacks of hiring your sister as a $150K appraiser. You do not need another similar debacle. Do the right thing and have your department’s financial operation thoroughly analized. Then maybe you might regain your lost credibility.

By Kristen Davies

August 12, 2010 8:44 PM | Link to this

My friend posted this response on her facebook. I agree with most of these blogs that this just doesn’t seem like fair reporting…the reason I canceled my subscription 6 years ago.

By jimmie

August 12, 2010 9:27 PM | Link to this

Belcher is STILL an idiot.

By Malcontents & Doofus = GARY

August 12, 2010 9:31 PM | Link to this

Hello Gary!!! Glad to see that you cannot let your hatred for the sheriff goes which only proves the point of you being a disgruntled worker within the sheriffs office and someone who will never move up within the ranks because your disloyal behavior. You are so typical of the liberal montgomery county hit squad. Did you really say the numbers that Plummer quoted were probably from a fiscal officer within the sheriffs office?? really?? did you say that?? So do you question the rest of the liberal county hacks the same? I doubt it but you are so hilarious with your posts that I don’t think anyone finds your statement remotely credible. Fiscal officer came up with financial stats…hogwash says Gary, they are not trained to release financial stats unless they are a demoncrat appointee… Good one Gary..So let’s see, the county hired a consulting firm for $60k to find out who is cheating on benefits.. man that smacks of people cheating the system and really stinks because knowing you, you were caught up in this scandal because you probably one of the employees that’s covering their neighbor.. Bad Boy Gary.. While we are on that subject, it is ironic that the DDN has yet to bring this to light or even mention the insurance scandal. If you were caught up in this, I would be worried about my job and even getting prosecuted for fraud…bbbbuuuuwwwaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…holy crap I forgot, the demobcrats are the ones thats for free health care and they won’t do anything with this report or go after anyone…it would show their incompetence in managing the program. I wonder how Tom Howitt will keep his job then again if the report is never released, guess no one knows/… Wonder if Judy Dodge’s son is being covered under her insurance..god knows you need that while in jail. SO gary, as usual, you are full of it and no one really cares to hear your dribble or your love of Guido Tenore etc et all… Just one more thing Gary, do you pick where you take your taxes to done? Assuming that you even file….so you pick who does your financial audit correct? would you want the government telling you where to take your taxes to be done? No you wouldn’t and there’s no difference especially when you have a hostile demoncrat government in montgomery county and an administrator who thinks that there’s no need for the sheriff to patrol. Face it FELDMAN IS ANTI-POLICE and she will do everything she can to take teh $$$ away from the sheriff and put them out the door to more Rev. TRAMMELL ventures. That got a lot of return didn’t it?? Yet Belcher LOVES Feldman to the point that it is so transparent that she can’t separate her bias for any republican in office. Yep, take crime fighters funding away and give it to criminals like Trammell and yet the newspaper loves her… SO Gary, as you can see, you are slightly confused but I do think there’s still hope for you to start thinking like a normal person versus that hateful jailer that you are….as always.. go feed the prisoners and get off the computer at work! HACK!!!

By DV

August 12, 2010 9:45 PM | Link to this

I seriously doubt Phil Plummer crafted this editorial. Had he written it it would have gone like this, Umm, I mean, you know, it was Vore that made that bad decision, sure, um like I will, you know give you the days off you want, you want on the task force, sure like I think we can do that, did you see my cool commercial, anti gun and Bang bang bang, Face it Phil, the legacy you leave is not going to be a good one.

By amy

August 12, 2010 9:48 PM | Link to this

Sheriff Plummer: Please post a copy of your entire letter elsewhere so we can see if the DDN chose what to publish here.

By amy

August 12, 2010 9:51 PM | Link to this

Sheriff Plummer: Please post a copy of this same letter elsewhere so everyone can see if the DDN left any minor details out.

By Tom

August 12, 2010 9:59 PM | Link to this

Would the fool, malcontents etc… please crawl back under Plummer’s desk where you must reside. Your anti everybody but Plummer rants belittle the morons of the world. It is apparent you are one of the “rebutal” crew Phil has ordered to change the subject whenever a negative article appears about your boss. Plummer’s failure to properly test, which would have exposed the AT&T problem, the 911 center, Sister 150K Gate, and now this has given the Dems all the ammo they need to defeat him in 2012, and there’s two years left. Phil will be on TV when the next roach clip is found in the back of a car and at the next “stop the violence” picnic. Does anyone really believe violent crime is down the County, please Phil, start reading the front page of the paper instead of the comics.

By Dave

August 12, 2010 10:31 PM | Link to this

Ms Belcher, would you please do a story on the Insurance Fraud that was going on in the Montg. Co. Admin. Building. I think Foley and Feldman left out alot of information to complete the real story. They did not tell you that the insurance company started the investigation. One more thing was Judy Dodges 25 year son who is running from the law in the investigation. Did he have Co insurance???? How many other family buddy’s of the Couty Commissoners had someone on insurance??? The insurance company now make us bring in paperwork to show who is in the family that can be on the County Insurance. I bet a lot of the good ole boy’s from the Ivy Tower/Toilet upset. Karl how is the taxes on Belcher’s house in Washington Twp. I bet there not as high as the average joe, that lives down there. DDN reported Housing Down in Montg. Co. and Deb Feldman gets a bonus. Send Lynn out she always gets the facts right and never leaves out anything. Dave

By Dave

August 12, 2010 10:43 PM | Link to this

DDN, Is it not a conflick of interest for Belcher who is married to a Democrat Judge (Langer), to continue to slam the only two republician Officals in Montg. Co. Come on DDN who is running that place the DEMS.????

By Cindy D.

August 12, 2010 11:15 PM | Link to this

This is really scary to think that all this fighting is going on in our county. Familys are having a hard enough time right now puting food on our tables and trying to find ways to keep our children from being depressed with all thats going on in the world and with war. I believe I speak for many of us who dont work for the county or any police departments. please stop this fighting we need all of you. we are looking at you to help us and to give us a reason to believe you will have the answers to save us and help us save ourselves in these hard times. And all we read is that there is trouble with the very people we elected and need. I pray all of you will realize now is not the time to point fingers about the money loss in the county you didnt cause the problem you didnt cause our companys to go under. Help us find ways to work together and rise above this and work as a team we need you.I image your jobs are very hard and the stress is great at times. If you care about the county residents please find a way to work together for the people of this county and give us something to look forward to. we cant have you breaking down on us now. there is knowone person who caused all of the problems here. But it will take all of us to fix them.

By Ret Sgt 51

August 12, 2010 11:18 PM | Link to this

For Ellen Belcher: Just the facts mam, ALL THE FACTS And remember, half truths are still nothing but lies!

By Ret Sgt 51

August 12, 2010 11:18 PM | Link to this

For Ellen Belcher: Just the facts mam, ALL THE FACTS And remember, half truths are still nothing but lies!

By bobby

August 12, 2010 11:35 PM | Link to this

Cindy, Please lower your expectations, or write Ellen Belcher and Ms. Feldman @ ? to voice your concerns about people struggling to live. This column is about power, and who wins it.

By Releigh T.

August 12, 2010 11:47 PM | Link to this

Hello again it’s me Releigh T, Please stop picking on my liberal democrate friends. I really need some help getting some money for my home improvement loan. How bout it Deb Feldman can I get a couple of more millions? or do I have to talk to your bosses the same ones that passed resolutions approving all my ill gotten gain. I love my commissioner’s: Double Dealing Dan Foley, Debbie DUI Lieberman and Judy duhhh Dodge. I hope my county health insurance is still in effect. I’m sure Tom Howlett has me hidden away like the other frauds who where getting zillions of dollers right under the noses of my good friends. So lighten up people, these are my friends after all how else could I get Deb Feldman to ask another of my friends matt Heck to investigate me. I just hope he has his crack investorgater Tenore do the work. Like I’ve always said IT’s great in Dayton! (when someone else is paying the bills)

By Phiil

August 12, 2010 11:51 PM | Link to this

If Plummer spent more time being a leader and not having sexual relationships with an employee, maybe he could lead the department.

By null

August 13, 2010 12:00 AM | Link to this

Releigh T., My guess is you are Dave with beer muscles.

By Thor

August 13, 2010 12:09 AM | Link to this

@bitter Phil,You have crossed the line. May we now talk about how much you enjoyed prison or why you are not allowed within 500 ft. of a school?

By TOM =County Liberal wingnut

August 13, 2010 4:17 AM | Link to this

@TOM.. well not oo difficult to see what rock you crawled out from under. Your comment of “start reading the front page of the newspaper” pretty much sums up your stance and of course being a liberal hack of the county elite, I certainly can understand why you would read the front page, especially since everything is so favorable to your “best friends” from the DDN. Heck, no not Matty Heck) Feldmand can give away millions to TRAMMELL and still be the beloved darling of the newspaper and the best thing since duck butter. It is easy for you to cast blame on Plummer because your overall ignorance to the facts blind you and your cognitive thinking (thinking cap for you). Yepper, I feel sorry for you as you continue down the road of your liberal mental disorder. I can offer you some counseling if you like and I think it would do you some good. As one of my favorite talk show hosts stated “liberalisim is a mental disorder”. Take a couple of minutes and get your facts straight and then come back where you can stand on your own and have a reasonable debate instead of taking the democrats talking points and slinging them wherever you can.

By jay1

August 13, 2010 5:20 AM | Link to this

I’m not an insider on these things but how is Deb Feldman still in her position After allowing Tramell to CON her out of Millions of taxpayers money. Was it white guilt or stupidity or Both.could someone PLEASE explain why she Hasn’t been fired..

By Amazed

August 13, 2010 6:16 AM | Link to this

I still think the original story written by Belcher is a one sided, politically motivated piece of crap. Its obvious that a Republican will not got a fair shake in the DDN. To those that believe everything written in the DDN…you need help. To those claiming to be MCSO employees, be thankful you have a job and admit it you are doing better under Phils administration. Whinning and rehashing old rumors doesnt say much for your credibilty. If you would work as hard at your job instead of wasting your time here, perhaps Montgomery County would be a better place to live.

By Yahoo

August 13, 2010 6:25 AM | Link to this

Ok, lets make sure everyone knows the dynamics here: Ms. Belcher is married to Judge Dennis Langer. Langer used to be Mat Hecks right hand man. Both are big democrats. Feldman is a Democrat. Plummer is a Republican. Belcher has written a political hit piece on a Republican office holder with scewed facts in yet another attempt by DDN to demonize one party, and exhalt another. The Dayton Daily News, with their continued biased reporting, allowing comments on articles contrary to Republicans, but disallowing comments on the FEW articles critical of Democrats, shows obvious signs of DEmocratic allegiance instead of being an impartial news service. Belcher is a HACK, Gottlieb is a HACK, DDN might as well call itself what it is, the Dayton Democratic News. It is no more reliable than the Huffington Post, STAR magazine, or a rant by bi-polar Keith Olbermann.

By County Health Insurance Scandal

August 13, 2010 6:36 AM | Link to this

anyone that wants info on this scandal, you can go to the commission web page and see the contract for the audit company. Contract #10-0572. Since the DDN has ZERO courage to print anything about this or even investigate it, you can look at the data yourself. Something stinks and as usual, if it involves a democrat, it is covered up.

By MCSO

August 13, 2010 7:06 AM | Link to this

@amazed, I work at the Sheriff’s Office as a sworn deputy sheriff, I will not give my rank as I dont want any retribution. Plummer is viewed as a disaster by many of the employees. Most never sees him unless you are part of the drug squad or neighborhood party patrol. He sold himself out to his union buddies and hired “relatives” of present employees in positions they are unqualified. We know Plummer has ordered command level employees and some of his old high school buddies, sounds like the appraiser mess, to get on the boards and say everything negative about the person(s) who comes out against him. He is very vindictive. That is why these “supporters” of Phil’s are trying to deflect the story back to Feldman and Belcher. Phil is an embarassment, if you don’t think so, put your application and get a job here. Let’s see what you think in a year or two.

By Tom

August 13, 2010 7:07 AM | Link to this

Sheriff Many of your facts are correct in your response but you left out one important item. When the committees met with you in 2009 you were informed that the services to the townships cost more than you were charging them. You were advised then to raise the cost to cover your actual expense. Other county residents are paying for the policing in those jurisdictions and they should not be. If you dont want to cover your cost then cancel the contracts and let them form their own departments.

By Sgt Tom Franklin, USMC

August 13, 2010 7:17 AM | Link to this

@MCSO “I will not print my rank…for fear of retribution.” What a coward you are. You chastize your boss in public, but dont have the GUTS to stand by your allegations by your allegations by letting him know who you are. What a COWARD. In the USMC you would be taken out back and treated like the punk you are. If you are not MAN ENOUGH to identify yourself as you make public criticisms of your boss, then your comments must be viewed as either LIES or comments from a COWARD. Eiterh of which can not be viewed with any credibility.

By Fuss

August 13, 2010 7:17 AM | Link to this

I remember Gary Haines how he was very much the common man but carried out his duties as Sheriff with community support and and a grace and dignity that was admirable. Anyone remember Gary? Nobody wants to pay more nobody wants to subsidize the cost to someone else.

By Sgt Tom Franklin, USMC

August 13, 2010 7:17 AM | Link to this

@MCSO “I will not print my rank…for fear of retribution.” What a coward you are. You chastize your boss in public, but dont have the GUTS to stand by your allegations by your allegations by letting him know who you are. What a COWARD. In the USMC you would be taken out back and treated like the punk you are. If you are not MAN ENOUGH to identify yourself as you make public criticisms of your boss, then your comments must be viewed as either LIES or comments from a COWARD. Eiterh of which can not be viewed with any credibility.

By Sgt Tom Franklin, USMC

August 13, 2010 7:17 AM | Link to this

@MCSO “I will not print my rank…for fear of retribution.” What a coward you are. You chastize your boss in public, but dont have the GUTS to stand by your allegations by your allegations by letting him know who you are. What a COWARD. In the USMC you would be taken out back and treated like the punk you are. If you are not MAN ENOUGH to identify yourself as you make public criticisms of your boss, then your comments must be viewed as either LIES or comments from a COWARD. Eiterh of which can not be viewed with any credibility.

By Greg

August 13, 2010 7:18 AM | Link to this

@Tom, we don’t know for sure Plummer’s financial data is correct. Those figures needs to be verified independently before they can be taken as fact. Most revenue sources he cited have been enacted by the legislature and in place well before Plummer was appointed. He claims monies raised from “inmates”, are these revenues just being carried under accounts receivables or are(have) they actually been(being) collected? Plummer has claimed reducing Command Staff salaries. He fails to state he brought in two Captain positions from the Parks Districts, which he didn’t need. He lowered their starting salary a small amount to appease the unions. Everything Phil quotes about the law is true but irrelevant to his problem. Phil now must cut $800,000+ from his budget, all because he was arrogant and wouldn’t work with County Officals and other Elected Office Holders.

By Amazed

August 13, 2010 7:39 AM | Link to this

Tom..Unless you have worked with the budget you have no idea if the figures are correct. Just because you dont like some of the promotions smacks of jealousy. People get promoted for a number of different reasons, one of which is loyalty. You dont have no loyalty and and you dishonor those that came before you. You spew your hatred hidden behind anonimmity of your computer. You are a coward. Phil had the courage to take a job that put himself in the public eye and be open for critism. HE is working hard to make our community a better place. What have you done?

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 7:46 AM | Link to this

Although I have never worked under Phil, I have known him since he was a CO. I have found him to be very personable, and a man who believes in his department. I have no reason to not believe what he says. I also am in daily contact with many deputies and supervisors from the MCSO, as I teach at many academies that they also either instruct at, or come to for extra training. Not a single one has had a bad word about the Sheriff, and I have spoken to a lot of them. Most have said it is far better NOW under Plummer than the immediately past Sheriff. I believe that too. I have also looked at the various posts by the negative posters in this, and in other threads relating to this story. I have found that many of the various “Anti-Phil” posters, have the same writing styles, some even using the same verbiage in their posts, yet under different names. This is indicative of someone trying to mislead readers into believing there are more holding the same opinion than there are. yesterdays OP-ED is a prime example. Two posts, one from “JD” and one from “DV” were almost exactly the same. I have no dog in this hunt. I retired from DPD. I had a great level of respect for Wilson and Haines, and also Plummer. I believe that the original article was heavy on cristicism, short on facts, and was a political loyalty op-ed for a friend of Belcher- Mrs Feldman, who shares the same political leanings as the writer. The MCSO is a fine organization, with fine members.

By smoke & mirrors

August 13, 2010 7:47 AM | Link to this

The sheriff can contract to cities as well as townships…Ok Trotwood I would be afraid…be very afraid!!!

By Glen

August 13, 2010 8:00 AM | Link to this

Amazed, you must be Phil’s relative. Your posts are always the same and biased towards lms phil. Sorry, but I don’t remember being asked during my interview process if I was going to be “loyal” to someone I don’t feel is qualified for the job. I interviewed and got the job because I wanted to be a cop. He is going to picnics etc… so he can improve his image after the facts of his indiscretion with a subordinate, promotion of his 2 chief deputies for political advantage, the RDC disaster, Sister Gate, and Budget Gate. Just watch how fast the Command Staff runs out of there when they get their time in.

By Max

August 13, 2010 9:49 AM | Link to this

Ellen was right! A typical ‘political’ response (i.e. the 911 dispatch issue) is to blame the system chosen to employ it. There is nothing ‘misleading’ in Belcher’s OP/ED piece. Plummer’s response is he is not repsonsible for things he has a responsibility for.

By fortressdayton

August 13, 2010 10:25 AM | Link to this

I don’t buy it. I see the results of the MCSO around me every day…I am not impressed. The county jail is supposedly an award-winning facility. Really? Serving rotten food to inmates, illegal over-crowding. Injured and other persons requiring medication or medical attention left unattended or simply denied. You can judge a country (or county) by its roads and its jails.

By Amazed

August 13, 2010 10:40 AM | Link to this

Glen, I am not related to Phil, I am retired from the S.O. Your loyalty ends with your pay stub. You pubicly demean your bosses while hiding your true identity. You should be man enough to come forward, identfy yourself, and state the facts as you know them. I am not referring to rumors you have heard or things you have read in the DDN. Facts and figures that are true, out weigh conjecture and political leanings. Step up and stand behind what you believe in or shut the hell up.

By Max

August 13, 2010 10:57 AM | Link to this

@Ret. Sgt.: While I don’t dispute your views of Plummer as a person, I don’t think that was what Ellen was addressing. I think she correctly identified local concerns about the scope and authority of the Sheriff’s Department. There is at the very least the perception that Plummer is benefitting from these ambiguities which, I think, is the meat of Ellen’s piece and, yes, this has been going on for some time. Also, clouding the issue, is the ‘problem’of what jurisdictions are covered by MSD’s law enforcement services as well as cost. I do not think Plummer addressed this. Back to the basics, Plummer’s prime job is the County Court and Jail. Period. When he speaks of joint task forces and multi-jurisdictional investigations he does validate Ellen’s concern he is expanding the scope of MSD while claiming to make make budget cuts. For the sake of reasoned discussion, if Plummer stuck with MSD’s main mission would these budget cuts be necessary in the first place? Are Plummer’s ‘investgative’ services a condescending indictment that other law enforcement agencies cannot do their jobs?

By Glen

August 13, 2010 10:57 AM | Link to this

Amazed, when you identify your self then I will too. You never worked for the S.O. and if you did you took one of those phone medicals. You float on blogs all day long, maybe you should get a part time job at walmart, i am sure columbus will allow you to sit on a stool and say hello to customers. I work around the people with the info and hear them talk everyday how screwed up Plummer has made things and how he has pi**ed off everyone in the County. He doesn’t play nice in the sand box, it is that simple, it has nothing to do with politics. Repubs have been in the Sheriff’s Office for over 50 years. Unfortunately that will end if the Dems find a viable candidate.

By Max

August 13, 2010 11:22 AM | Link to this

Glen, I for one will say the obvious; ‘identity’ here is optional and in no way makes any comment more or less valid. RE: Plummer. The MSD has had a virtual free ride for some time and I’m not sure if that’s a ‘Republican’ issue or local residents just not asking too many questions; maybe a little of both. I think Ellen brought several issues to the table which Plummer did not address in his response.

By Amazed

August 13, 2010 11:36 AM | Link to this

Glen..you take the cake. You state you work around people that have the info and hear them talk. Isnt that rumor?? I i did not take a phony retirement and would be glad to meet with you to discuss this. Just let me know when and where and I am sure you will recognize me.

By Max

August 13, 2010 11:40 AM | Link to this

Plummer’s defense of his entering into law enforcement contracts with other municipalities is “Section 311.29(B) of the Ohio Revised Code.” While that is a ‘authority’ is falls short of a mandate or contains proscribed ‘neccessities’ for such contracts. THAT is the issue Ellen raised and by citing authority without coupling it with need and fiscal, County responsibilty Plummer is presenting a classic legal defense; cite authority then make questionable behavior appear to fit the interests of the County. Smoke in mirrors. The ORC did not intend for sheriff’s departments to dispense law enforcement on a highest bid basis and then bill taxpayers for expanded ‘task force’ work in jurisdictions that don’t pony up to Plummer. In this regard, Plummer is twisting the ORC to fit his needs. I nominate Ret. Sgt. to run against Plummer.

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Link to this

I think Glen’s motivation is now apparent. He is a Democrat and is against the Republican Sheriff. That is fine, but at least admit it. Glen, did you know the Democrat party has been in charge of the Prosecutors office for just as long? Where is your outrage over Mat Heck and his team who have screwed up the Pros office for decades? @Max. The Sheriff in Ohio counties is responsible for the jail, the serving of civil and criminal orders, Court Security and the Law Enforcement of unincorporated areas of the county. The Sheriff does have the right to charge those areas for service, or they may consolidate with an ajacent incorporated area, or provide protection for themselves. That is the duties of the SO. While I agree some task forces created are not under his initial mandate, he does have the authority to do so under the powers of being the chief LEO for the county. I hardly think it is fair to blame the Sheriff for technical failures of a telephone system, installed by AT@T. Did you know that the Miami County Dispatch System in Troy dropped as many calls in a week last year? As previously stated, EVERY deputy I have talked to, in a private setting, has supported Phil and prefer him over the previous admin. While you will have disgruntled employees in every department, in every job, the majority are in support of him and his policies, which, IMO, says a lot. Glen and Greg seem to be the minority. And finally, Belcher most certainly did not address all the facts. This is a hit piece pure and simple. May I ask what experience Ms. Belcher has in running a police/sheriff department? Or does her experience come from her husband, Judge Langer who used to work for Mat. And how about Feldman’s shortcomings? Ms. Belcher seems to give her a pass. Why? Well birds of a feather…. Again, I have no dog in this hunt, however lets call a spade a spade. This is yet another politically driven OP-ED. To his credit, Sheriff Plummer downpays what we all know is true, Feldman doesnt like him and is using the media to assail him and the MCSO. PLummer is taking a higher road.

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Link to this

I think Glen’s motivation is now apparent. He is a Democrat and is against the Republican Sheriff. That is fine, but at least admit it. Glen, did you know the Democrat party has been in charge of the Prosecutors office for just as long? Where is your outrage over Mat Heck and his team who have screwed up the Pros office for decades? @Max. The Sheriff in Ohio counties is responsible for the jail, the serving of civil and criminal orders, Court Security and the Law Enforcement of unincorporated areas of the county. The Sheriff does have the right to charge those areas for service, or they may consolidate with an ajacent incorporated area, or provide protection for themselves. That is the duties of the SO. While I agree some task forces created are not under his initial mandate, he does have the authority to do so under the powers of being the chief LEO for the county. I hardly think it is fair to blame the Sheriff for technical failures of a telephone system, installed by AT@T. Did you know that the Miami County Dispatch System in Troy dropped as many calls in a week last year? As previously stated, EVERY deputy I have talked to, in a private setting, has supported Phil and prefer him over the previous admin. While you will have disgruntled employees in every department, in every job, the majority are in support of him and his policies, which, IMO, says a lot. Glen and Greg seem to be the minority. And finally, Belcher most certainly did not address all the facts. This is a hit piece pure and simple. May I ask what experience Ms. Belcher has in running a police/sheriff department? Or does her experience come from her husband, Judge Langer who used to work for Mat. And how about Feldman’s shortcomings? Ms. Belcher seems to give her a pass. Why? Well birds of a feather…. Again, I have no dog in this hunt, however lets call a spade a spade. This is yet another politically driven OP-ED. To his credit, Sheriff Plummer downpays what we all know is true, Feldman doesnt like him and is using the media to assail him and the MCSO. PLummer is taking a higher road.

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Link to this

I think Glen’s motivation is now apparent. He is a Democrat and is against the Republican Sheriff. That is fine, but at least admit it. Glen, did you know the Democrat party has been in charge of the Prosecutors office for just as long? Where is your outrage over Mat Heck and his team who have screwed up the Pros office for decades? @Max. The Sheriff in Ohio counties is responsible for the jail, the serving of civil and criminal orders, Court Security and the Law Enforcement of unincorporated areas of the county. The Sheriff does have the right to charge those areas for service, or they may consolidate with an ajacent incorporated area, or provide protection for themselves. That is the duties of the SO. While I agree some task forces created are not under his initial mandate, he does have the authority to do so under the powers of being the chief LEO for the county. I hardly think it is fair to blame the Sheriff for technical failures of a telephone system, installed by AT@T. Did you know that the Miami County Dispatch System in Troy dropped as many calls in a week last year? As previously stated, EVERY deputy I have talked to, in a private setting, has supported Phil and prefer him over the previous admin. While you will have disgruntled employees in every department, in every job, the majority are in support of him and his policies, which, IMO, says a lot. Glen and Greg seem to be the minority. And finally, Belcher most certainly did not address all the facts. This is a hit piece pure and simple. May I ask what experience Ms. Belcher has in running a police/sheriff department? Or does her experience come from her husband, Judge Langer who used to work for Mat. And how about Feldman’s shortcomings? Ms. Belcher seems to give her a pass. Why? Well birds of a feather…. Again, I have no dog in this hunt, however lets call a spade a spade. This is yet another politically driven OP-ED. To his credit, Sheriff Plummer downpays what we all know is true, Feldman doesnt like him and is using the media to assail him and the MCSO. PLummer is taking a higher road.

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Link to this

I think Glen’s motivation is now apparent. He is a Democrat and is against the Republican Sheriff. That is fine, but at least admit it. Glen, did you know the Democrat party has been in charge of the Prosecutors office for just as long? Where is your outrage over Mat Heck and his team who have screwed up the Pros office for decades? @Max. The Sheriff in Ohio counties is responsible for the jail, the serving of civil and criminal orders, Court Security and the Law Enforcement of unincorporated areas of the county. The Sheriff does have the right to charge those areas for service, or they may consolidate with an ajacent incorporated area, or provide protection for themselves. That is the duties of the SO. While I agree some task forces created are not under his initial mandate, he does have the authority to do so under the powers of being the chief LEO for the county. I hardly think it is fair to blame the Sheriff for technical failures of a telephone system, installed by AT@T. Did you know that the Miami County Dispatch System in Troy dropped as many calls in a week last year? As previously stated, EVERY deputy I have talked to, in a private setting, has supported Phil and prefer him over the previous admin. While you will have disgruntled employees in every department, in every job, the majority are in support of him and his policies, which, IMO, says a lot. Glen and Greg seem to be the minority. And finally, Belcher most certainly did not address all the facts. This is a hit piece pure and simple. May I ask what experience Ms. Belcher has in running a police/sheriff department? Or does her experience come from her husband, Judge Langer who used to work for Mat. And how about Feldman’s shortcomings? Ms. Belcher seems to give her a pass. Why? Well birds of a feather…. Again, I have no dog in this hunt, however lets call a spade a spade. This is yet another politically driven OP-ED. To his credit, Sheriff Plummer downpays what we all know is true, Feldman doesnt like him and is using the media to assail him and the MCSO. PLummer is taking a higher road.

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Link to this

I think Glen’s motivation is now apparent. He is a Democrat and is against the Republican Sheriff. That is fine, but at least admit it. Glen, did you know the Democrat party has been in charge of the Prosecutors office for just as long? Where is your outrage over Mat Heck and his team who have screwed up the Pros office for decades? @Max. The Sheriff in Ohio counties is responsible for the jail, the serving of civil and criminal orders, Court Security and the Law Enforcement of unincorporated areas of the county. The Sheriff does have the right to charge those areas for service, or they may consolidate with an ajacent incorporated area, or provide protection for themselves. That is the duties of the SO. While I agree some task forces created are not under his initial mandate, he does have the authority to do so under the powers of being the chief LEO for the county. I hardly think it is fair to blame the Sheriff for technical failures of a telephone system, installed by AT@T. Did you know that the Miami County Dispatch System in Troy dropped as many calls in a week last year? As previously stated, EVERY deputy I have talked to, in a private setting, has supported Phil and prefer him over the previous admin. While you will have disgruntled employees in every department, in every job, the majority are in support of him and his policies, which, IMO, says a lot. Glen and Greg seem to be the minority. And finally, Belcher most certainly did not address all the facts. This is a hit piece pure and simple. May I ask what experience Ms. Belcher has in running a police/sheriff department? Or does her experience come from her husband, Judge Langer who used to work for Mat. And how about Feldman’s shortcomings? Ms. Belcher seems to give her a pass. Why? Well birds of a feather…. Again, I have no dog in this hunt, however lets call a spade a spade. This is yet another politically driven OP-ED. To his credit, Sheriff Plummer downpays what we all know is true, Feldman doesnt like him and is using the media to assail him and the MCSO. PLummer is taking a higher road.

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 11:55 AM | Link to this

Good grief! Sorry about the multiple posts, my mouse must have gotten stuck…or that’s my story and I am sticking to it…

By Retired Sgt

August 13, 2010 12:01 PM | Link to this

Good Grief! Sorry for the multiple posts! My mouse must have stuck, or at least that is my story…lol

By JS

August 13, 2010 12:07 PM | Link to this

Anybody else think the idea of a consultant, of the sherriff’s choosing, sounds a lot like an internal investigation, which generally doesn’t investigate anything? A glorified, ousourced yes man. Not commenting on anything else in this opinion piece, or the original opinion piece, since I didn’t read the original. Just noting how that idea sounds.

By Dave H.

August 13, 2010 12:38 PM | Link to this

I’d like to address two points. (1) When the topic is the Sheriff of Montgomery County the blogging is always open and fast and furious. But when other officials are the topic the DDN does not open blogs for comment. I have tried on a couple of topics but get they don’t allow it. (2) For all of the people that work for the Sheriff, if the enviroment and leadership is so bad, WHY DON’T YOU QUIT? I think Taco Bell is hiring

By Perspective

August 13, 2010 3:02 PM | Link to this

Off topic but I’ve noticed that comments are NEVER allowed on any story involving a shooting. Why is that?

By Perspective

August 13, 2010 3:03 PM | Link to this

Off topic but I’ve noticed that comments are NEVER allowed on any story involving a shooting. Why is that?

By Greg

August 13, 2010 4:04 PM | Link to this

First and foremost I am not a Dem. or Rep. I am one of the majority in the County, an Independent. Ret. Sgt., just because you claim law enforcement status and entitlement does not automatically mean I believe you. With that said, I work at the S.O. in a sworn capacity. Plummer is supported by the past leadership of the FOP because of sweetheart deal, the former president and Plummer’s former SWAT partner received. Support for Plummer was lined up in record time. Plummer’s arrogance has cost the regular employee dearly. Like it or not, he is in the POLITICAL arena, and he is failing miserably. He has thrown those who got him elected and were his biggest supporters under the bus. Ask the command staff in one of your “private settings” what they think of them. Only after they retire will you get the truth. He has promoted lackeys and unqualified individuals into high ranking positions. Since you are so “connected” to a deputy, check out the qualifications, training, and experience of his Chief Deputy Plummer’s last two promotions to Chief Deputy rot of political maneuvering. Nolan was promoted so he would shut up and support Phil. The present Chief has connections to Mat; you know the one you who has screwed up the Prosecutor’s Office for decades, as you say. Plummer has chosen to remain confrontational with the County Commission and County Administrator. How does that help me Ret. Sgt.? You pontificate all day when posters attack the City of Dayton’s inability to fund police, retirement systems or other pet peeves of yours. How about my livelihood? I am not retired yet Sarge, I need to keep getting raises and progressing just like you did during your career. Doesn’t look like I will be as well off as you after I decide to leave the biz. Plummer has destroyed all the good will the Sheriff’s Office had built up over at the County and he did it record time, right after he was appointed. His confrontational style stinks and is costing me and my fellow officers’ future economic gain because he is looked at unfavorably. You say you’re so connected, ask an elected official what they think of our sheriff in one of your “private settings” and report back to me. 911 was put into place before it was properly tested, AT&T’s errors would have been found out in a dry run, Sister Gate and Revenue Gate have all diminished our faith in his ability to lead. Sorry, but Phil will have a hard time beating back a qualified challenger in 2012.

By Uh Gee Greg, why promote a disloyal Jacka$$ like U?

August 13, 2010 4:27 PM | Link to this

Sounds like soured grapes from Greg. I think the majority of the posts have him correct which is a LOSER and a coward. It is a shame that he carries a badge and gun because there is no doubt his cowardliness doesn’t stop at this board. Always the last to get to a hot run Greg? Just take an extra street so you aren’t the first to go on scene? You are so transparent that you are just so mad because you were never considered for promotion. I would say if you had one ounce of loyalty, maybe you would get out of the jail. Your day will come soon enough because malcontents like you can’t keep the pie hole shut and you’ll spout off about something to a “so called friend” and next thing you know…court security. Let’s see Greggy…maybe you help yourself by stopping the disloyal behavior and hiding your identity. If you have something to say, be a MAN and stand up instead of acting like you are the woman of the house. Revenue Gate???? you are a loser aren’t you. Now you make things up just to prove that you can try and hurt the sheriff by being dishonest. Now I am thinking that you wouldn’t even be safe on the drug task force because the money would come up missing… Sworn deputy??? yeah right..only thing you are sworn to is being a coward and a liar…. good luck in your career…or what’s left of it…

By Amazed

August 13, 2010 6:56 PM | Link to this

Ret Sgt has it the nail on the head once again. Greg or whatever name he chooses to post under is a malcontent with no loyalty or honor. Sadly he will go through life wondering why the world is passsing him up. Max is probably an employee of the DDN.

By Max

August 13, 2010 7:53 PM | Link to this

@Ret. Sgt.: I understand the SD’s authority. I also understand in budegtary terms, extending both authority and budget at County expense where duplicity exists in law enforcement, Ellen’s piece is right on the mark. Glen’s remarks go beyond the Rep/Dem thing with MSD; I think he does provoke the question Ellen was also broaching. As voters, do we have any options? If there is no opponent to Plummer, then don’t we receive what we deserve? Ret. Sgt., you have to admit Plummer’s response was both non-responsive and defensive. What does that tell you?

By DV

August 13, 2010 8:11 PM | Link to this

Greg you are right on point and don’t let Plummers buttboys keep you from posting. The public deserves to know what goes on inside the SO and how bad the morale is. The incidents you point out are just the icing on the cake. There is much more and many people know about many more stories. Plummer like Vore does not promote the best, he promotes the most loyal. I’m hearing someone bought a trailer at the lake when Phil did and then sold his trailer when Phil sold his. I guess that’s the way to get promoted at MCSO. Screw doing a good job, just stick your head as far up the bosses behind as you can and ride his coat tails. There have been some great cops at MCSO, I think they intimidate the ones in charge.

By Amazing

August 13, 2010 8:16 PM | Link to this

Let’s keep this piece written by Sheriff Plummer in perspective. He is responding to an article written by an opiner. Sheriff Plummer did not address the issue of under charging the townships. If, as he states he has cut his budget and increased revenues through new methods, then, he has done his job. However, he does not address the headline which stirred this hornets nest, County short $1 million; sheriff’s cost blamed. The article stated a review panel conducted a process that evaluated the County’s financial situation and found the Sheriff is not charging actual costs back to the townships as REQUIRED by ORC Section 311.29. I agree with Max, Sheriff Plummer defended areas that were not challenged and failed to address the core issue. You can do better Phil!

By runner

August 13, 2010 10:10 PM | Link to this

DV, are you going to write your little story about Gary’s last words tonight, like you did on the last article? Your a real piece of work.

By @runner

August 13, 2010 11:03 PM | Link to this

Runner (Phil) KMA and it’s you’re or you are not your dumbazz

By dv

August 13, 2010 11:11 PM | Link to this

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi8035/is20081005/ai_n43423698/ The DDN giveth and the DDN taketh away! Hahahaha Request to destroy foreclosure sales files was a ‘mistake,’ Plummer Lets all not forget filegate and appraisergate ought to be a wrestling coachgate too, but no one has looked too close at the hirings of other than the sister. Remember these folks when election comes up. We will be around to remind you just in case. http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/dayton-daily-news/mi8035/is20100129/request-destroy-foreclosure-sales-files/ai_n49029783/?tag=rel.res4

By Jeff

August 14, 2010 12:19 PM | Link to this

Hey DV, how about listing some of the those promotions you questioned under Vore and Plummer.

By redfred

August 14, 2010 12:46 PM | Link to this

Plummer is the a law enforcement officer, let’s judge him mostly for that. He has made some mistakes, but there is clearly too much politics involved here. Leave out the personal attacks.

By DV

August 14, 2010 2:42 PM | Link to this

Hey red, plummer is an ELECTED official. That makes him a politician first. If you don’t like the hits your little boy is taking then get off the page.

By Amazed

August 14, 2010 3:36 PM | Link to this

DV..I am sure the Sheriff will weather this non contraversy. Rehashing old rumors and half truths wont help your cause no matter what name you post on.

By DV

August 14, 2010 6:27 PM | Link to this

Hey Jeff just check the purchase and sales of mobile homes at lakes

By Bill

August 15, 2010 11:18 AM | Link to this

I have stayed out of this fray but I have sat back and done a lot of laughing at these posts. I have laughed most at the one put up by Plummer’s “hit” bloggers. They are so desperate to defend the indefenceible. The posts that try to let Plummer off the hook by blaming retired Sheriff Vore must be from adherents to the Obama blame Bush playbook.The posts against Plummer seem to be more logical and backed with more facts. I think Phil is in touble if Danny Hobbs, Mike Lang, or the wild card, who chooses to remain nameless at this time, throw their hat into the primary. If the dems get a viable candidate he most likely will lose in 2012.

By DV

August 15, 2010 6:12 PM | Link to this

Bill, I’m amazed at how terroristic his little hit squad can be. Threaten people with subpoenas etc. There appears to be a real sense of entitlement for the occupants of the sheriffs office. Each one has allegedly handpicked his successor (I still refuse to believe Haines would be Vore unless Vore was the last one standing). When someone else was asked by the party to be interviewed Vore and Plummer submarined him terribly. They did pay him off with the chiefs gig long enough to probably up his retirement high 3 years, so it was probably worth it, but how dare they try to influence who the voters have to choose from. Plummer is in way over his head. All it will take is one more “event” and the whole world will be able to see how bad a manager he is.

By smoke & mirrors

August 16, 2010 7:07 AM | Link to this

The paper won’t allow posts on certain topics like shootings and so forth because it puts a bad light on their views and stats. It’s the “snooze ’ paper. They refused to print a story about the unpaid taxes of the Trotwood police chief Quincy Pope. He owed about 11,000 in back taxes.

By Joe

August 16, 2010 7:23 AM | Link to this

DV, I know for a fact Haines wanted Vore to take over for him, he prepared him through progressive promotions and assignments because he was young enough etc… Haines also thought Vore had the political connections and stomach for the game, he did and did. Unlike Plummer, Vore did not compromise his beliefs to gain support. You knew where Vore stood and he never took it personal. He promoted many who were against him during his election, unlike Plummer who cut a deal to keep Nolan off his back the next time around.

By Joe

August 16, 2010 1:55 PM | Link to this

DV, you must be one of those little smideons that was fired by Vore. He did get rid of a lot of the dead wood, you know the kind, like you. I curious, what agencies are you talking about, he was in every task force going and had other join his swat and hnt teams and organized crime unit. You are what we call a bitter ex. An employee who was removed from a position you could not peform or were not suited for. Either way, give me some real names and we will talk. If you had any info or contact with anyone in the know, you would surely know Vore made no deal with Nolan other than he didn’t fire him, which many of us in the department wished he would have.

By runner

August 16, 2010 3:45 PM | Link to this

DV, print your little blog about Gary’s last words. Make your family proud.

By Joe

August 17, 2010 7:29 AM | Link to this

Dv, swat team expanded regionally under vore and the equipment was all updated, tired of telling you, a former fired employee who has a personal agenda agaisnt vore the FACTS. Vore incorporated the new swat armored vehicle and command post. Cane was destroyed when two south cities pulled out because Vore hadto put an incompetent Lt. in charge becaue the union grieved and Plummer’s incompetence didn’t know how to handle this Lt. This Lt. destroyed every position occupied. Landis is another story, funny how Plummer promoted him, after the Sister Gate scandal broke. Landis’ wife is Mat Hecks admin. asst. We’ll see how this all plays out. On the other issues get your facts straight or I will have to continue with the smack down.

By dv

August 17, 2010 7:52 AM | Link to this

I think the Dayton Swat team has an entirely different perspective and you couldn’t smack down a gnat.

By Joe

August 17, 2010 3:39 PM | Link to this

You are so out of it, everyone who is anyone knows Plummer couldn’t stand gassing Bob. Not enough oxygen in the valley when those two got together. It was actually funny to watch them on a scene together. Best thing for the Regional Swat team is when Dayton left.

By dv

August 17, 2010 4:50 PM | Link to this

Well on one side you have a trained, experienced and well qualified leader and manager, who has taught and done the job for years and years. He has been involved in every facet of Swat and then there is Phil. Who cares what Phil could or couldn’t stand. He was as incompetent as that idiot vore.

By DV

August 17, 2010 5:00 PM | Link to this

Joe, you forgot to tell me how they didn’t make a deal with Nolan, who was promoted after being made to look like a scumbag by Vore’s little band of buttbuddies who did the interviews? How do you say a guy’s background is too bad to be sheriff, but then when he pulls his hat out of the ring make him the chief deputy? You plummer drones get really tiresome with your lack of logic and knowledge

By Joe

August 17, 2010 6:55 PM | Link to this

DV, you are so out of the loop, Plummer and others told Vore NOT to allow gassing Bobby back in the SWAT community after he was embarassed over the Hunt caper. Against our advice, because some of knew better Sheriff Vore reached out and told the then chief to let gb back in. Plummer couldn’t get along with gb. The infighting between the co-commanders did the team in. AND Nolan needs no help looking like a, IN YOUR WORDS, a scumbag. Go ask some of his associates. I have said before DV, if you want the real scoop on what’s happening follow me on twitter, if you know how.

By Joe

August 18, 2010 7:13 AM | Link to this

Poor DV, his inabiltiy to cypher facts makes him look childish. Of course a deal was made by Plummer with Nolan. Nolan was going to expose all of Phil’s little secrets during the election. So after Phil got the nomination Nolan scared Phil, at the disgust of the command staff in place at the time, Plummer appointed Nolan Chief. Nolan then spent the next 18 months until Plummer ran him out, running around like HE was the Sheriff. Nolan wouldn’t or doesn’t remember too many conversations he has with anyone, “wink, wink”, you know what I mean. Sadly for my department, I know this will really gull you, Plummer won’t be beat unless a viable candidate steps forward. See you at the golf outing.

By Tom

August 20, 2010 7:04 AM | Link to this

Looks like DV, the guy who does all the name calling but never offers any facts to back up his wild accusations moved on to another blog to spew his hate speech.

By DV

August 20, 2010 9:01 AM | Link to this

No Tom, still here keeping you lunatics honest and holding the idiots accountable. So kizzmyazz

By Tom

August 20, 2010 4:45 PM | Link to this

Thanks for proving my point DV

By Bill

August 22, 2010 1:16 PM | Link to this

Phil, when is the next debacle coming, we need something to blog about.

By Retired MCSO

August 24, 2010 9:28 AM | Link to this

Being a retired MCSO employee who has felt the wrath of Phil & the Mopes, I have to laugh at those who demand(current employees bloggers critizing Phil) to identify themselves. I rejected Phil’s unethical practices and made my identity known while working there, only to be targeted and harassed without good reason. All of my Evals were outstanding and I had no discipline or written warnings in my file. That didn’t stop Phil and his hyprocite staff from comming after me. He is just like his “daddy” Vore, and will have his adminstrators go after anyone he personally can’t contend with. He is the coward. Also, USMC Sergant, if you saw how the SO functions, you would never compare it to the military again. Unless you spent all your service time in Sick Bay. I’m prior military and I have experienced what he is capable of. Phil & his mopes couldn’t manage a Little League Team. Have you seen or heard him in public. I am embarrassed for him and I have no respect for him. Wake up Republican Party, before the Democrats do!!

By Phil

August 25, 2010 7:27 AM | Link to this

RetMCSO, I mean DV, who are you kidding. If you want take your pot shots behind your little computer screeen in your mamma’s basement go ahead. But at least be honest about who you are. You are a former ex-employee who was going to be fired by Vore for incompetence and other inappropriate behavior. Instead of taking your punishment like an adult you ran up to Columbus like the rest of the haters, who never should have been cops in the first place, acted like you were incapable of doing your job, when in fact you and your kind are nothing but cowards, submitted for, with the assistance of a questionable mouthpiece, called off sick never to be seen again until you recieved your “fraudulent” “disability” “retirement”. You clowns make us who contribute to your welfare check on a daily basis sick. You were a COWARD then and you are COWARD now.

By DV

August 26, 2010 7:49 AM | Link to this

It amazes me how everyone who criticizes the SO this moron calls retired medically and starts making up stories. The only disability around here is between your ears “phil” and a little google search reveals all kinds of negative stories about your hero. They will be available at election time and we will make sure the voters are reminded.

By Greg

August 26, 2010 6:52 PM | Link to this

What amazes me is little gutter snipes like DV, who are past disgruntled employees who hold grudges against Sheriff’s for their life incompetencies have the gall to complain on these blogs about treatment. When gutter snipes like you have the set necessary to present your b.s. to those you snipe at in person, well, at least I might be able to muster a speck of respect for you. Until then, you deserve what you hate, the TRUTH!

By Alan

August 27, 2010 7:28 AM | Link to this

It does appear this DV guy is full of personal animosity and hate. He really should get some help. He would be a better person once he is free from this hate.

By DV

August 27, 2010 6:16 PM | Link to this

Face facts greg, phil,alan, et al. You are a weirdo and a perfect example of what is wrong at the SO. You do a good job at showing how low standards have to be set in order to get a turn key job.

By Alan

August 28, 2010 9:04 AM | Link to this

DV, you are a mean spirited and hateful person who must hava a hard time looking in the mirror in the morning. I wouldn’t like what I saw if I were you, thank goodness that is not the case, either. Have a nice day.

By DV

August 28, 2010 9:25 AM | Link to this

Aw, I’m mean spirited huh? Did I hurt your widdle feewings? Quit changing your name douche bag.

By Alan

August 28, 2010 2:48 PM | Link to this

Nope you didn’t hurt my feelings. Ignorance always utilizes hate speech and name calling when facts are absent. You are pitied my friend.

By Joe

August 29, 2010 6:41 AM | Link to this

Good news, we think we have found the perfect candidate to run against Plummer in 2012.

By Greg

September 10, 2010 7:14 PM | Link to this

Will someone in Plummer’s camp tell him when doing an interview to not try to sound like a real Sheriff, Sheriff Joe Arpio. Plummer sounds ridiculous when talking about drug raids and “how he going to clean up the City” etc…

By HELP ME

November 28, 2010 8:36 PM | Link to this

If I see the dull and boring Phil Plummer on TV during Christmas carrying turkeys and presents around town handing them out for a publicity stunt I am goint to up chuck.