By Janice

June 25, 2010 7:35 PM | Link to this

$20k per year!? I never thought of it as a real school, let alone a college… Do the credits transfer?

By MV

June 25, 2010 7:50 PM | Link to this

Usually, the credits from private career colleges do not transfer. For the money, most students could go to Sinclair and get a much better education. These schools are to education what predatory lenders were to the mortgage business.

By This is why we can't have nice things

June 25, 2010 8:01 PM | Link to this

it’s a scam!!

By Bill F.

June 25, 2010 10:29 PM | Link to this

All of these schools need to be wiped off the map. Miami Jacobs and Kaplan are just the tip of the iceberg. Why doesn’t the DDN investigate Southwestern College?

By Dee

June 25, 2010 10:31 PM | Link to this

Run from these schools, including Fortis (formerly Rets). No one I know who has graduated in billing/coding is qualified by their own admission to enter the field and are unemployed and further in debt!

By Kevin

June 25, 2010 10:49 PM | Link to this

It used to be a great school back in the day when it concentrated on photography. Then it lost its “focus” when they added basket weaving and other non-photographic professions.

By by Donnie

June 25, 2010 10:50 PM | Link to this

I am currently a student at Kaplan College and several students and I believe that it is a great school. All of the instructors has at least 15 yrs. of experience in the field. All of them have a Masters Degree in the courses that they teach. It has nothing to do with the faculty I believe that it has to start with the President of the school.

By Chelsea

June 26, 2010 12:52 AM | Link to this

“Pugh said the layoffs would not impact students or the quality of education they receive.” this comment is extremely false and entirely ignorant. I am a photography student at this school and you better believe the layoffs have impacted us. this administration is so warped. if it wasn’t for the phenomenal photography instructors, i would have never enrolled in this college. kaplan college is a joke.

By No, the credits don't transfer!

June 26, 2010 1:17 AM | Link to this

Well, except to its parent, Kaplan University. Otherwise, Kaplan College is as big a joke as Southwestern, Miami Jacobs, Fortis and the list goes on.

By Max

June 26, 2010 10:05 AM | Link to this

Photography Students: I taught Fine Art Photography at a major university and had acqaintances who taught at Dayton Beach Community college in its Commercial Photography program. Part of your education in this field is the ‘rubbing of elbows’ with past and present masters of the medium; if your teachers do not have those contacts then you are wasting your money. Job placement in photography or CGI? You are competing with everyone who owns a digital camera or, wisely, spent less money attending a summer workshop. Your resume is virtually pointless until collected in major museums - not ‘best of show’ or a contrived local gallery - which seperates you from your teachers and the rest of the hobbiests. Frankly, you can get all the tech info and, in some cases, an online course for free or cheaper than you are paying. If you look at the professionals, past and present, fine art and commercial, they either attended a liberal arts school or a legitimate school of design (Pratt, for example), or, in the case of Edward Weston, Paul Strand, Steiglitz, Steichen, Arbus, Abbott, etc., attended no ‘photography’ school at all. It’s your money, for now, and your decision how to spend 20k which - if a loan - will come back to bite you, and, if not a loan, would buy a nice set of professional grade equipment to grow into for the next 4 or 5 years. I’d consider what photography job propects would even come close to paying back the interest/principal on a 40K+ note. Your ‘degree’ won’t even qualify you to teach at Kaplan; that’s something you all should consider.

By Sara

June 26, 2010 10:24 AM | Link to this

I am a current photography student at the school. It is not a complete waste of time! I have not graduated yet and already have a job at a professional studio because of the knowledge I have acquired through this school. The teachers are amazing photographers and mentors to all of the photography students. We all look up to them and now the school decides to tell them to take part time or leave. Ana Max you think you know what you are talking about but you have no clue! Come spend the day in one of our classes and tell me you get that kind of teaching from a major college. We have smaller classes so we get to know the teachers better and we are able to have one on one time with them.I have been to major colleges and I dont think that the teaching compares to those of the photography department at Kaplan College! This school would be no where without the photography program. The original school was called Ohio Institute of Photography. The technology came later. For Kaplan to be doing this to all the programs including photography is complete crap.

By Neil

June 26, 2010 10:37 AM | Link to this

The news release given by Kaplan College on Friday had several errors. The number of employees laid off was 23 not 14 and the tuition runs from $20,000 for a diploma to $48,000 for a two year degree.

By what a joke

June 26, 2010 1:20 PM | Link to this

I went to Kaplan college and studied the pharmacy technician program. I was lied to right from the start. I was told after graduating, Which I did with a 4.0 gpa, That I would be able to earn around 40,000 dollars a year this is definitely not the case. It looks like I as a certified pharmacy technician will only be able to earn about 9.00 dollars per hour.I really feel as if I’ve made a huge mistake. I thought I was doing something to better myself in life. Save your money and time it’s not worth either.

By Lora

June 26, 2010 2:50 PM | Link to this

I am in my 4th class at Kaplan. So far the Instructors I have had have been wonderful. The career facilitators located in the LRC have been very helpful. It is summertime! Enrollment is down! What is new about that in the education arena? I would suggest you TRY Kaplan before you condemn them. The Dr.’s offices, etc. I have talked to have been highly approving of Kaplan and it’s courses and are anxious to be part of their externships and programs. It is far better to have hands on training than to PAY for prerequisits and extra classes just to keep the college coffers full and drag out the years of schooling needed to become a viable employee.

By Mr. CT

June 26, 2010 4:21 PM | Link to this

Kaplan College? I want to talk about the Electrician Technician Program, because Kaplan will only employ unemployed or financially challenged electrician turned instructor. There is one instructor working there who is not licensed (never had any), but is working full time instructing the students. Other talks bad about the students and calls them dumb. The Electrician Chair has no respect for the students and as he learns his job he sides with the Kaplan way of doing business. His predecessor was terminated for doing what his manager told him (farcifying) and later they terminated the DOE and CEO. Kaplan College is a rip off to the students. Why pay $18,000.00 for a diploma? When you can go to the local community college and pay half for an Associate Degree? Job placement is also a challenge if the student has a criminal conviction. If you have a conviction and want to better your life, invest in you, go to a real college “Community College”. Your future employer would want you to break the mode and deliver to him/her an Associate Degree from a “not for profit” and real college. Remember Miami Jacob College losing their license because of one instructor not meeting the required education to qualify for employment? I am sure Kaplan will have this same problem (soon). This is why the Ohio Governor is taking grant money away from “Schools for profit” and giving them to community colleges. Think about it “School for profit”, can you really get a sound education from them?

By Jeri

June 26, 2010 9:18 PM | Link to this

Before you commit to these kind of “schools”, talk to past students and see where their careers are today. Reread Max’s post, he offers great advice. I feel sad for the young people with big dreams, but their parents should have known better. That said, follow your dream and stick to it! I did and 30 years later, I still work in the art field! I went to Sinclair, $11.00 a credit hour back then!

By Tammy

June 26, 2010 10:58 PM | Link to this

Before you invest $20K for any school - think clearly if you are going to find a job that compensates you to repay that debt. That seems very high for any tuition. When I attended WSU, credit hour was $248 an hour. That averages to 1/2 what the tuition is per year at this school. Albeit that was a decade ago. Please talk to others in your field and confirm you are going to make the dollars to repay what this school is charging.

By Geneiva

June 26, 2010 10:59 PM | Link to this

I think Max makes a very valid point. I went to a 4 year University due to the information I had received from friends that struggled with a similar school, its accrediation and its programs. She paid 40k for 2 years worth of education and vet tech certification. I paid slightly over 30K for a Bachelors. I feel that these programs take advantage of people who are looking for opportunities to better themselves and make an investment in their future. Unfortunately most of them arent going to make the 40K per year to offset the student loans they are responsible for thereafter. I would just recommend digging into the history and reputation of the schools and the output of its students and their placement. I am currently doing my Masters online but I REFUSED to go to one of the school ‘mills’ to do so. Wright State, Ohio State and several other great colleges have programs that you can take online or on campus if you would like. Just do your research first.

By And Another Thing

June 27, 2010 11:21 AM | Link to this

You students who are looking to protest on Monday … are you ready to step up and pay more than your already excessive tuition to support the salaries and benefits of these 14/23 people laid off? The money to support those people has to come from somewhere and your tuition dollars is the revenue stream. PS - listen to the advice of these other posters. This is way too much money and 2 years of your time spent to prepare you for a lifetime of student loans. Go to Sinclair, Wright State, UD. You’re paying more per credit now than any of those schools already.

By tim

June 27, 2010 3:35 PM | Link to this

Photography school? Pharmacy school? The only one that would be hired would be those with a “law enforcement” degree. The Law Enforcement and Prison System in Ohio is always looking for more help…

By Peter D. Slaughter

June 28, 2010 12:18 PM | Link to this

A message to all who read this. The solution is to become self educated as much as possible. Use the library and internet for free,when it comes to learning. Avoid all these rip off school’s and colleges.It’s a racket for sure. Folks will lie to you and trick you into enrolling to pay their salaries,same people will brush you off when it comes to hiring you. The debt is not worth the hassle at all. All this stuff is being exposed. Teach yourself and reduce your debt and start your own business period

By by gina

July 8, 2010 12:59 PM | Link to this

not only did kaplan lay-off employees so the big shots can make more money off of these young people(which are paying tuition prices, that is more than the university of cincinatti(which includes room and board and food and books. They are failing to tell students that they will never get a job in the field of criminal justice because they have a record or felony. And they are ready to graduate in july. This school is a rip-off. LIES, DECIET,FAVORTISIM, AND DESCRIMINATION ARE ONLY A FEW WORDS THAT DECRIBE THIS SO CALLED SCHOOL. ITS A SCAM……

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December 16, 2010 2:29 PM | Link to this

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By Anne

January 7, 2011 8:36 PM | Link to this

Schools such as these are a rip off. I went to Southwestern which is just as bad and they do not transfer credits at all! If you want to go to a college and get an actuall degree then you need to go to an actuall university or college. The best way to find out the info for a good college is to ask if their credits will transfer to a well known college. If they say no, it is not a good school. If they say yes, call a well known college and ask if they would accept credits from a school like this. People who say this is a great school is lying or being lied to and is naieve. Don’t fool yourself. Save your money and go to a well known university. You will be surprised how much money you will save and get a great education!