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Should it be illegal to use a friend’s login to listen to a song or watch a Netflix movie?
Tennessee just passed a law that makes it a crime to use a friend’s login — even with permission — to listen to a song or watch a movie from services such as Netflix. The law is aimed at hackers and thieves who sell passwords in bulk, but it could be used against people who use a friend or relative’s subscription. What do you think of that?
MAHDI WADE, Springfield: “So it’s like burning a CD or DVD. That money is lost, and the actor or musician doesn’t get paid. In our day and age, that’s not right. I agree with a law that makes sure those individuals are rewarded and not cheated because the consumer wants to be cheap.”
WES TRAINUM, Beavercreek: “It’s something that a lot of college kids do. They just naturally share, it’s not done maliciously. For example, if you lived in a dorm room and wanted to share an account with someone who’s not related, that law would completely get in the way of that. To me, the law just seems silly.”
CHAITANYA KASARKOD, Dayton: “I guess if it’s something you pay for, like Netflix, you are not supposed to share. You should have to pay for a login. I agree with that.”
MARY MILLER, Washington Twp.: “As long as someone has paid for it, who cares who’s logging in? It shouldn’t matter whose household it is, as long as Netflix got paid for the login.”
MEGHAN POLING, Dayton: “I don’t personally know of any people who do that, but I’m sure it happens a lot, because people are always looking for a way to break the system.”
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By Retired Sgt
July 13, 2011 5:42 AM | Link to this
I think Netflix allows 5 or 6 different computers/devices to use the account at one time. I think it should be ok to use the login if you are family (in residence) or friends (in residence). If you are just bulk sharing, I am not so sure…
By Realthinker
July 13, 2011 5:52 AM | Link to this
There is no way to enforce such a law without invading the personal privacy of somebody’s home.If the login is already paid for, then wanting an additional charge because the current user’s name happens to be different is pure greed on the part of the entertainment industry. Frankly, it’s double dipping.
By Mandie
July 13, 2011 8:28 AM | Link to this
I agree with realthinker. Espically since they just raised my prices yesterday…does anyone need a log in ID and password? LOL
By Bulk Sales
July 13, 2011 8:43 AM | Link to this
I think it is OK. That is how I make my living.
By Lea
July 13, 2011 9:55 AM | Link to this
Yup, it is an invasion of privacy. I have a Netflix account… What if I am at my parents’ house and want to watch a movie with Mom? Does that make it stealing FROM MYSELF?
By CoryG
July 13, 2011 10:45 AM | Link to this
I think that if they wanted to do something like this they should make you pay for each system “allowed” and lower costs for people who just use it for one system. Yet still “get their money” from the ones using it from 6 different places. And to the person saying the entertainment industry isn’t getting “their money” HA! The entertainment industry is what is wrong with society now-a-days. Look at your bank account, then look at what the box office is making. I don’t think Actors and “Top 100 Artists” are hurting. Want to see passion and wallets hurt? Go to The Attic in Kettering and see half the band’s living/touring conditions(and listen to real, passionate, talented people making music). CoryG.
By Justa Thought
July 13, 2011 10:58 AM | Link to this
So not only does the local government want to tax me outrageously, now they want to tell me how to use what I’ve spent my money on as well? Wow, what is everyone going to do with their subscription gifts? OMG…like it was paid for by one person, but like someone else is using it… Peter said it best in the Family Guy movie…”You know what really grinds my gears…you America… F-U!!!!!”
By MomofThree
July 13, 2011 12:12 PM | Link to this
If I have a log in at my home, and I let my spouse or child use my log in on my computer, I can not imagine that they could be prosecuted for that. Big brother is watching too closely and things are getting way out of control.
By mick
July 13, 2011 12:27 PM | Link to this
Well, my daughter lives with us and has a Netflix account. But I pay for the internet that comes into my house. Should it be illegal for my daughter to use my internet access while she accesses her Netflix account?
By Squirrellygirl
July 13, 2011 12:29 PM | Link to this
Overregulation. Yeah, it’s real cute until you find your own liberties stepped on.
By April
July 13, 2011 1:25 PM | Link to this
The law is against people using your id - not your internet. Lea and Mick you aren’t understanding the law. If you went somewhere else and logged in yourself that’s fine. Having someone else log-in using your account is not.
By jeremiah
July 13, 2011 2:11 PM | Link to this
Look at it from another angle: if I rent a movie from Redbox and let a friend borrow the disk and return it, is that stealing? What about buying the DVD… am I not allowed to loan it out because my friends have not paid the studio for watching it? what about really crappy movies: do we get a refund? should they pay US to have to suffer through them?
By Justa Thought
July 13, 2011 2:11 PM | Link to this
Lea and Mick understand the law fine April. However, it is people such as yourself that have made America a far cry from the country our founding fathers planned it to be. If I choose to have 10 accounts with someplace and choose to let 10 ppl use those accounts, who are you, or the backwoods Tennessee government to tell me otherwise whom I can or cannot let use something I am paying for? Bet you walk on water as well…
By Cheney
July 13, 2011 2:21 PM | Link to this
No,No,No absolutely not. With more laws come more lawbreakers. Now we will need more jails and lawyers. The USA has gone fricking nuts.
By Blitzsoe
July 13, 2011 2:23 PM | Link to this
Happy Birthday, Douglas Bohrer.
By ohiodale
July 13, 2011 3:05 PM | Link to this
This is stealing period. BTW, you are allowed to use the same account per family so this is not a valid argument. The law is talking about giving your password to friends who do not live in the same household. I doubt anyone even does this.
By Jason
July 13, 2011 3:30 PM | Link to this
In the case of Netflix, I am paying for a certain number of devices. The log in is just the authentication tool used to allow those devices access to the account attached to it. I’m not using more than my allotment, and therefore not harming Netflix in any way. The artists would actually benefit by allowing the shared access. Movies I wouldn’t watch are being seen by other family members with different tastes than mine. The artist receives a royalty they wouldn’t have had I not shared my account info.
By Pearl
July 13, 2011 3:56 PM | Link to this
So if you buy a CD with 10 songs on it and rip it into MP3s - do you think its ok to give those 10 songs to 1000 of your friends so that the artist who made them only gets revenue from ONE person? Of course not. When you get a Netflix account if you actually READ your User Agreement you will see the account is only meant to be used by the holder of the account. Its like you bought the rights, but your friend didn’t.
By Pearl
July 13, 2011 4:02 PM | Link to this
In the case of Netflix though - its not going to be a big issue. Netflix has already stated that even though you can have multiple devices on an account,(6 I believe) you will only be able to stream movies from ONE device at a time. So if your ‘freeloading’ buddy is watching a movie with your login - you will be denied on one of your other devices.
By mick
July 13, 2011 4:10 PM | Link to this
But if my daughter logs in to my internet connection (and she doesn’t pay for it), isn’t she violating the spirit of this law. The law seems to require that only the person who pays for the product (whether it be internet access or Netflix) be legally entitled to enjoy it. Hence, if my daughter doesn’t pony up for the internet, she should be arrested for violation of this law. No? Am I missing something here? Isn’t that the basis of this law? Of course it is. You know, we could apply this to the auto industry, too. Only those people who purchase an automobile are authorized to ride in them. All passengers must pay Detroit for that privilege. I read that as the same thing.
By Don
July 13, 2011 4:33 PM | Link to this
I think it’s a ridiculous law. Thieves will always find a way to circumvent any law regardless of it’s imposition. When my Mom was alive, I used to load movies up for her to watch on Netflix from my house since she was not computer savvy. According to this law in Tennessee, I would have been a criminal for helping my Mother with her entertainment choices. Utterly ridiculous law, and largely unenforceable.
By mick
July 13, 2011 7:54 PM | Link to this
Based on what I remember from the last election, the politicians were supposed to create more jobs. Where in h*ll did this law come from? Idiots.
By Frank
July 13, 2011 11:10 PM | Link to this
Doesnt the state of Tennessee have some real law making and enforcement to do instead of being the goons providing muscle to the singers and movie stars? They must be getting some serious kickbacks from someone.
By WTF
July 14, 2011 4:25 AM | Link to this
This is tantamount to restricting giving someone something of value, which doesn’t apply to anything else in life. It will never hold up in court.
By confused
July 14, 2011 5:50 AM | Link to this
I would have to read this new law to be sure, but it sounds like if I or my children use the netflix account wich is under my wife’s name, we would be in violation of this law.Does this law differentiate between members of the same household compared to friends and relatives who don’t live in the same house? Kind of sounds vague to me.
By NoName
July 14, 2011 10:10 AM | Link to this
Well they would be detecting your ip address, which would be the same for everyone in your household on the same internet connection regardless of the device.
By raiel
July 15, 2011 3:30 PM | Link to this
There shouldn’t be a special law making this illegal. Special laws like this screw thigns up. It could already be illegal under theft. A netflix account lets others in the househould have access to your account as I understand it. This would be like letting your friend go to your gym using your gym membership card. It’s fraud.