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Should the city of Kettering ban folks from gathering outside Fraze Pavilion to hear concerts?
Should the city of Kettering ban folks from gathering outside Fraze Pavilion to hear concerts?
CHARLES LITTELL, Butler Twp.: “The people should be allowed to gather on public property, but not on private property. Private property owners have a right to prevent trespass.”
JOSEPH STEPHENSON, Dayton: “I don’t think they should ban it. It’s good for people to come together.”
CINDY FALASCA, Beavercreek: “I hope not. I’ve been to Fraze shows, although I never listened from outside. But, having children now, I think it would be a nice escape to just go and listen outside for a little while.”
JASON COOK, Dayton: “It sounds to me more like enforcement should be kicked up, rather than barring people from sitting outside. If they’re in the public area, that should be OK.”
MICHELLE HUNTER, Fairborn: “I’ve been to the Fraze, but only inside. I’ve seen folks sitting outside. If I were a resident, it might make a difference to me, but I’m really not sure.”
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By Kettering Resident
March 19, 2010 8:18 AM | Link to this
Should such a leading question be asked by the paper? The city isn’t banning citizens from the park at all. The city is enforcing trespassing laws at the request of private land owners. Such disappointing (again) reporting from the DDN.
By Me
March 19, 2010 8:50 AM | Link to this
I’ve only been to 1 concert where I sat outside. From what I observed, everyone was pleasant and there were no disturbances. This was at the Boston concert. With this economy it’s hard to afford tickets and this is a nice thing to do with friends or family. As long as people are well-behaved and don’t go onto private property, I don’t see a problem with it.
By Matt T
March 19, 2010 8:56 AM | Link to this
It is my understanding that the tree lawns on the sides of the Fraze are technically private property, so the majority who sat outside to listen won’t be able to do so from there. I’m of the opinion that great public places are abuzz with people and that the new policy will eliminate that. The concern that the “freeloaders” are unruly isn’t even remotely true based on the dozens of times I’ve taken my now 8 yr. old son with me to sit out and listen to a few songs. I agree with the opinions I’ve read that it is actually the PAYING concert goers who get drunk INSIDE who, while leaving, urinate in yards, throw up, and misbehave FAR moreso than those sitting outside. I think ultimately, that even the paying concert goers will find a diminished feel and vibe to the Fraze if and when these stated new policies take effect.
By Squirrellygirl
March 19, 2010 9:38 AM | Link to this
I’m totally with Matt on this one. Those people who have talked the govt into banning people from outside the concerts are not going to get rid of those who are getting drunk inside the concert and urinating on their lawns. Those people are still going to continue to do the same things. We live in a generation where moms and dads no longer whip their children when they’re bad, and when the kids grow up they think everyone owes them something. I still believe except for private lawns that the govt should have no say as to who listens to free music outside on the streets and sidewalks.
By nyc
March 19, 2010 10:21 AM | Link to this
since the white man..stole the land from the native americans..and claimed it now belongs to them…i think the point is meaningless
By It is what it is
March 19, 2010 10:32 AM | Link to this
I gave up on the Fraze a few years ago. I was upset that they wanted to charge me full ticket price for my 4 month old that was in a carrier that was on my chest. I can understand not bringing in a stroller but he was on me the whole time! I could not justify paying another $25.00 for a 4 month old that is not taking any extra room! I gave my ticket away. Even the security was rude. I can understand not wanting to have people walk on private property but the security won’t even let you walk on the side walk! So your force to walk in the street. If they are so concered about who can listen to the music take it over to Trent Arena! (I don’t agree with that either!)
By null
March 19, 2010 10:39 AM | Link to this
I hear a DDN reporter will be visiting Kettering Resident at their job to remind them not to overcook the fries.
By B'wana
March 19, 2010 10:44 AM | Link to this
@ “nyc”- YOU are meaningless. When you speak, it’s meaninglees. You are still a complete moron, I see. What’s it like being you? I mean, HOW can you wake up in the morning, look in the mirror and be happy with what’s looking back at you? How can you stand TO BE you? I pity your wife or girlfriend, if there is such a…thing. Please do us a favor and return soon to your beloved cesspool you fondly call home, okay sweetheart?
By Retired Sgt
March 19, 2010 11:55 AM | Link to this
Once again people, they are NOT banning anyone from listening to the music. The No Trespassing signs are for PRIVATE PROPERTY ONLY. They have nothing to do with PUBLIC PROPERTY. You will still be able to mill around in the free public social areas of the mall. You will not be able to sit in the grass of PRIVATE PROPERTY owners without their consent. Leave it to the DDN to continue to fan the flames of yet another non-controversy. I always thought a newspaper was supposed to REPORT the news, not CREATE the news…but then again this is the DDN….